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01-15 06:40 AM
Are we screwed by DOL ? -Changing Environment of PERM Labor Certification Application
From immigratgion-law.com Mathew Oh Blog link--->>>
01/15/2009: Changing Environment of PERM Labor Certification Applications
I reported quite earlier and repeatedly the changes in the PERM application process, most noticeably since August 2007. The change was in part triggered by the political pressures relating the various release of fraud investigation reports involving foreign labor certifications. Accordingly, the DOL adopted "integrity" as the focus and goal for the PERM program beginning from FY 2008. As part of the move, it has been reengineering the PERM and termporary labor certification programs including revision of the filing forms (ETA 9089 and ETA 9035). The rule making process for such changes has lately been completed and as a preparatory step to launch the reengineered foreign labor certification program, they have just announced that they are scheduling briefing sessions in the first part of February 2009 for the public and stakeholders to introduce the new program. Initial information indicated that the new program was going to be launched in the late Spring, but this briefing schedules more or less imply that the change in PERM application may come somewhat sonner than the "late" Spring. The reengineered ETA 9089 incorporates many features that are intended and targeted to achieve integrity of the labor certification process. For the reasons, the DOL performance report lowered the target processing time from less than two months in earlier days to six months. Surprisingly, though, even before they launched the new PERM program, the processing times have already reached six months or longer, partly owing to the lawsuit settlement and case loads with earlier priority dates under the settlement turned into the regular non-audit processing queue. Reportedly, this and other factors have caused recent priority date cases caught and frozen in the processing queue. Until recently, no approval of cases with priority dates later than May 2008 has been reported. However, people start seeing reports during the last few days that June 2008 cases have been adjudicated and certified, implying that the impact of the aftermath of the lawsuit settlement started diminishing. However, the immigrant community may not see any dramatic changes in the processing times in the future because of the upcoming launch of the reengineered PERM program.
Another environment, other than program focus on "integrity," that will cause continuous and difficult labor certification process is the economic recess producing massive unemployment. Since availability of certification of PERM applications should be footed on "unavailability" of qualified and "available" U.S. workers, it appears that the Office of Foreign Labor Certification is launching mechanisms to achieve "integrity" of labor certification under the ever increasing unemployment rate since rising unemployment implies that more and more qualified U.S. workers may be available in the labor markets in various areas and regions. One mechanism which they have already announced is to conduct research of unemployment rate in the job site locations and its surrounding areas by reaching commercial and noncommercial websites before they adjudicate the applications. Related to this mechanism, it appears that the adjudicators may mobilize "supervised recruitment" mechanism to require the employer's rerecruitment activities under the supervision of the OFLC when they consider or suspect the employers' claims of unavailability of U.S. workers are considered dubious considering various circumstances, including the changing labor market conditionss and high unemployment situation in the areas. Potential use of the second mechanism may be implied from the FAQs on Supervised Recruitment which the office has just released on its website. The announcement states that clean supervised recruitment cases may be completed in about six months, but it is obvious that most of these cases may take much and much longer than six months. Another fall-out of potential focus on supervised recruitment mechanism is the accompanying policy of pogtential increased debarment of employers and lawyers who are suspected to file PERM applications with misrepresentations. Accordingly, the byproduct of exercise of the supervised recruitment will be more likely increase in the number of debarment of employers and their representatives.
Under the changing environment, what should the employers do? (1) They should quickly familiarize themselves with the new PERM program. Since the new form requires different standards and procedures, their ongoing receruitment may produce a result that does not conform with the new program. Participation in the upcoming breafing sessions in San Diego and Washington D.C metropolitan area in the first week of February may be one way to achieve it. (2) Employers and representatives may initiate their own research on the changing labor market situation in the area where the application is filed and may be prepared for potential supervised recruitment decisions of the agency, should they find the unemployment rate is exceedingly high or the employers themselves have the record of lay-off of their own employees. All of these may have to be done before they develop recruitment plans and strategies. (3) Employers should review and comply, as closely as possible, with the O*Net job zones and acceptable level of education, experience, and special requirements under the O'Net system. ghe more the employer deviates in requirement from the job zone standards, the more they may face challenges including audits and even supervised recruitment. Considering the prediction of further increase of unemployment rate and deterioration of nation's economy this year, the foregoing may be a challenging task for the employers
From immigratgion-law.com Mathew Oh Blog link--->>>
01/15/2009: Changing Environment of PERM Labor Certification Applications
I reported quite earlier and repeatedly the changes in the PERM application process, most noticeably since August 2007. The change was in part triggered by the political pressures relating the various release of fraud investigation reports involving foreign labor certifications. Accordingly, the DOL adopted "integrity" as the focus and goal for the PERM program beginning from FY 2008. As part of the move, it has been reengineering the PERM and termporary labor certification programs including revision of the filing forms (ETA 9089 and ETA 9035). The rule making process for such changes has lately been completed and as a preparatory step to launch the reengineered foreign labor certification program, they have just announced that they are scheduling briefing sessions in the first part of February 2009 for the public and stakeholders to introduce the new program. Initial information indicated that the new program was going to be launched in the late Spring, but this briefing schedules more or less imply that the change in PERM application may come somewhat sonner than the "late" Spring. The reengineered ETA 9089 incorporates many features that are intended and targeted to achieve integrity of the labor certification process. For the reasons, the DOL performance report lowered the target processing time from less than two months in earlier days to six months. Surprisingly, though, even before they launched the new PERM program, the processing times have already reached six months or longer, partly owing to the lawsuit settlement and case loads with earlier priority dates under the settlement turned into the regular non-audit processing queue. Reportedly, this and other factors have caused recent priority date cases caught and frozen in the processing queue. Until recently, no approval of cases with priority dates later than May 2008 has been reported. However, people start seeing reports during the last few days that June 2008 cases have been adjudicated and certified, implying that the impact of the aftermath of the lawsuit settlement started diminishing. However, the immigrant community may not see any dramatic changes in the processing times in the future because of the upcoming launch of the reengineered PERM program.
Another environment, other than program focus on "integrity," that will cause continuous and difficult labor certification process is the economic recess producing massive unemployment. Since availability of certification of PERM applications should be footed on "unavailability" of qualified and "available" U.S. workers, it appears that the Office of Foreign Labor Certification is launching mechanisms to achieve "integrity" of labor certification under the ever increasing unemployment rate since rising unemployment implies that more and more qualified U.S. workers may be available in the labor markets in various areas and regions. One mechanism which they have already announced is to conduct research of unemployment rate in the job site locations and its surrounding areas by reaching commercial and noncommercial websites before they adjudicate the applications. Related to this mechanism, it appears that the adjudicators may mobilize "supervised recruitment" mechanism to require the employer's rerecruitment activities under the supervision of the OFLC when they consider or suspect the employers' claims of unavailability of U.S. workers are considered dubious considering various circumstances, including the changing labor market conditionss and high unemployment situation in the areas. Potential use of the second mechanism may be implied from the FAQs on Supervised Recruitment which the office has just released on its website. The announcement states that clean supervised recruitment cases may be completed in about six months, but it is obvious that most of these cases may take much and much longer than six months. Another fall-out of potential focus on supervised recruitment mechanism is the accompanying policy of pogtential increased debarment of employers and lawyers who are suspected to file PERM applications with misrepresentations. Accordingly, the byproduct of exercise of the supervised recruitment will be more likely increase in the number of debarment of employers and their representatives.
Under the changing environment, what should the employers do? (1) They should quickly familiarize themselves with the new PERM program. Since the new form requires different standards and procedures, their ongoing receruitment may produce a result that does not conform with the new program. Participation in the upcoming breafing sessions in San Diego and Washington D.C metropolitan area in the first week of February may be one way to achieve it. (2) Employers and representatives may initiate their own research on the changing labor market situation in the area where the application is filed and may be prepared for potential supervised recruitment decisions of the agency, should they find the unemployment rate is exceedingly high or the employers themselves have the record of lay-off of their own employees. All of these may have to be done before they develop recruitment plans and strategies. (3) Employers should review and comply, as closely as possible, with the O*Net job zones and acceptable level of education, experience, and special requirements under the O'Net system. ghe more the employer deviates in requirement from the job zone standards, the more they may face challenges including audits and even supervised recruitment. Considering the prediction of further increase of unemployment rate and deterioration of nation's economy this year, the foregoing may be a challenging task for the employers
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kevinkris
05-10 12:52 PM
What is the source of the info? Why are you wasting your and our time..
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smartboy75
06-27 04:37 PM
Just a thought....even if it is 1 year whats the difference...anyways since you have paid the new fees you don't have to pay it again next year for renewal....correct me if I am wrong ??
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Leo07
09-30 12:49 PM
There is lot of information in some of the old threads on this forum.
I was looking for it when I had appointment in Nogales. I ended up canceling that appointment and went to Calgary,Canada Instead.
I was looking for it when I had appointment in Nogales. I ended up canceling that appointment and went to Calgary,Canada Instead.
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saketkapur
03-24 03:38 PM
She will need to complete a 3 year waiver in medically underserved area or a 2 year home return before you can file for her adjustment of status(I-485).
We had faced a similar situation 3 years back and decided to go ahead with it since looking at the backlogs I am assuming with my PD of 2007 I am still way off from getting my GC.
So now my wife is completing her residency in June this year and has a waiver job lined up. Once/ If dates become current I will file for her I-485 after the waiver is complete.
If you need details then PM me.
Everyone has their own priorities and their own way of dealing with the situations.
We had faced a similar situation 3 years back and decided to go ahead with it since looking at the backlogs I am assuming with my PD of 2007 I am still way off from getting my GC.
So now my wife is completing her residency in June this year and has a waiver job lined up. Once/ If dates become current I will file for her I-485 after the waiver is complete.
If you need details then PM me.
Everyone has their own priorities and their own way of dealing with the situations.
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shana04
02-15 02:24 PM
If you have completed your 180 days with your 'parent' company.. then you are safe!
It's safer to get H1 transfer as mentioned by seltzer above
Your new company should be able to take care of AOS transfer for you which means change of representation - i.e. a new attorney representing your AOS case now AND change of job!
I'm going through that process right now!
Even though it cost you, I would prefer to keep one's own attorney.
If not, you are repeating the same old story. What if you plan to move from this second employer...
So, please find your own attorney. All that you need from new employer is offer letter and he is filing h1b with the same job title.
Good luck.
It's safer to get H1 transfer as mentioned by seltzer above
Your new company should be able to take care of AOS transfer for you which means change of representation - i.e. a new attorney representing your AOS case now AND change of job!
I'm going through that process right now!
Even though it cost you, I would prefer to keep one's own attorney.
If not, you are repeating the same old story. What if you plan to move from this second employer...
So, please find your own attorney. All that you need from new employer is offer letter and he is filing h1b with the same job title.
Good luck.
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kshitijnt
04-26 03:40 PM
Thanks so much for the responses.
I have my receipt number. And I am trying to get a hod of my case folder from th company lawyer.
"As such you do not need H1 due to new rule on OPT, however; you need to check if the H1 was applied for change of status? If it is a change of status application, you need to probably inform USCIS that you will not be changing status to H1."
Is there any way I can check if th H1 was applied for change of status without information from the company lawyer?
Thanks again.
The change of status would have been effective in october. You do not need to inform USCIS until september. As a matter for your benefit, avoid it telling to USCIS until september. Check with previous company's lawyer if they applied change in status. The attorney will tell you that. I-94 that comes with H1 status change, and is your property and you can demand that from the company. If they do not cooperate, inform USCIS anyway.
I have my receipt number. And I am trying to get a hod of my case folder from th company lawyer.
"As such you do not need H1 due to new rule on OPT, however; you need to check if the H1 was applied for change of status? If it is a change of status application, you need to probably inform USCIS that you will not be changing status to H1."
Is there any way I can check if th H1 was applied for change of status without information from the company lawyer?
Thanks again.
The change of status would have been effective in october. You do not need to inform USCIS until september. As a matter for your benefit, avoid it telling to USCIS until september. Check with previous company's lawyer if they applied change in status. The attorney will tell you that. I-94 that comes with H1 status change, and is your property and you can demand that from the company. If they do not cooperate, inform USCIS anyway.
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kshitijnt
02-07 05:02 PM
Mr Desi - Here is my take on this. Most 485 questions will come up at the time of applying Visa stamp. The consulates dont like the fact that you filed 485.
However, since you have done it legally (like everyone else), my take is that, canadian consulates are more likely to NOT make an issue out of it, unlike Indian consulates. However as always an element of risk is there. Indian consulates are very high risk when you have filed 485.
In case of port of entry, I recently entered US on H1 visa despite having 485 and AP. My wife used her AP at the same time of entry together with me. The officer asked me, "why dont you also use your AP?" I said, I have AP, but I want to use H1 visa if possible. And he said, ok, no problem, its your wish.
So again, depends on the officer you bump into. Both me an my wife had no issue at POE.
However, Mumbai consulate issued her 221(g) for some inexplicable reason.
However, since you have done it legally (like everyone else), my take is that, canadian consulates are more likely to NOT make an issue out of it, unlike Indian consulates. However as always an element of risk is there. Indian consulates are very high risk when you have filed 485.
In case of port of entry, I recently entered US on H1 visa despite having 485 and AP. My wife used her AP at the same time of entry together with me. The officer asked me, "why dont you also use your AP?" I said, I have AP, but I want to use H1 visa if possible. And he said, ok, no problem, its your wish.
So again, depends on the officer you bump into. Both me an my wife had no issue at POE.
However, Mumbai consulate issued her 221(g) for some inexplicable reason.
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Mahatma
06-04 12:47 PM
You have 2 best possible scenario.
1. OPT should give you 29 months window to apply for H1 or AOS (that is when PD becomes current for EB2 India). It doesn't hurt to start I-140 NIW process now.
2. It may be a good idea to consider EB1 as well, although it may be very challenging. Approval under EB1 might make your AOS journey shorter.
You could piggy-back on your H1 spouse's AOS if that is on-going.
You could explore multiple options simultaneously. There is no bar. Just remember one thing though. F1 and OPT are non-immigrant intent statuses. Hence, timing of I-140 should be prudent. It is better to do I-140 petition after OPT approval. Check with your attorney. Good luck!
1. OPT should give you 29 months window to apply for H1 or AOS (that is when PD becomes current for EB2 India). It doesn't hurt to start I-140 NIW process now.
2. It may be a good idea to consider EB1 as well, although it may be very challenging. Approval under EB1 might make your AOS journey shorter.
You could piggy-back on your H1 spouse's AOS if that is on-going.
You could explore multiple options simultaneously. There is no bar. Just remember one thing though. F1 and OPT are non-immigrant intent statuses. Hence, timing of I-140 should be prudent. It is better to do I-140 petition after OPT approval. Check with your attorney. Good luck!
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reachag
12-27 11:00 AM
anurakt, thanks for the update.
There is no information or caption on our home page that clearly states that this site/group is for highly skilled immigrants. We should come up with a caption that would convey this and also convey that its for all countries. We can add this beside the immigration voice logo.
The caption should be catchy and should convey the info....some thing like "by the people and for the people".
update: there is info about highly skilled immigrants on the home page but not sure if some people would have time to read these (especially those who just come in from other websites and might think this site is one of those immigration sites)
There is no information or caption on our home page that clearly states that this site/group is for highly skilled immigrants. We should come up with a caption that would convey this and also convey that its for all countries. We can add this beside the immigration voice logo.
The caption should be catchy and should convey the info....some thing like "by the people and for the people".
update: there is info about highly skilled immigrants on the home page but not sure if some people would have time to read these (especially those who just come in from other websites and might think this site is one of those immigration sites)
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ddeka
12-31 09:20 AM
Hi,
I just came back from India with my wife and daughter. I am also on H1B extension. Got my EAD, AP few months back. Please see below reply to your questions..
I am July 2 filer and have EAD card for myself and mywife. We are planning to go to INDIA for 30 days. I have H1B extended until 2010 but H1B STAMP is expired in passport. I have following questions:
1. Should I apply for AP for both of us? Yes you should - makes life easier while travelling outside
2. If we have AP documents for both of us, Do we need to have NEW H1B STAMP in passport? NO - You can travel anywhere using AP. Also you can still continue working on H1B until and unless you take a new job using EAD.
3. When you aboard in flight from INDIA, do they question for expired H1B VISA stamp in the passport? What document we need to show them at that time? Tell them you are traveling on AP as you are adjusting your status. They will just see your AP. Thats it. While entering in US, tell immigration officer that you are traveling on AP - he will check you passport and AP and then you will be escorted to a room where your AP will be stamped and will return once stamped. Then your are all set. They will let you come in. They might ask one or two casual questions like how many days your were in India, what was the purpose of travel etc..(giving example of India as I am from India) - nothing more than that..
Your help is greatly appericated.
Thank you.
I just came back from India with my wife and daughter. I am also on H1B extension. Got my EAD, AP few months back. Please see below reply to your questions..
I am July 2 filer and have EAD card for myself and mywife. We are planning to go to INDIA for 30 days. I have H1B extended until 2010 but H1B STAMP is expired in passport. I have following questions:
1. Should I apply for AP for both of us? Yes you should - makes life easier while travelling outside
2. If we have AP documents for both of us, Do we need to have NEW H1B STAMP in passport? NO - You can travel anywhere using AP. Also you can still continue working on H1B until and unless you take a new job using EAD.
3. When you aboard in flight from INDIA, do they question for expired H1B VISA stamp in the passport? What document we need to show them at that time? Tell them you are traveling on AP as you are adjusting your status. They will just see your AP. Thats it. While entering in US, tell immigration officer that you are traveling on AP - he will check you passport and AP and then you will be escorted to a room where your AP will be stamped and will return once stamped. Then your are all set. They will let you come in. They might ask one or two casual questions like how many days your were in India, what was the purpose of travel etc..(giving example of India as I am from India) - nothing more than that..
Your help is greatly appericated.
Thank you.
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hibworker
03-17 12:15 PM
Any recent experiences please.
How easy or difficult is it.
Is it any different in Chennai or in Hyd.
I heard different things like some employer memo or something. Is it related to stamping.
If it is, please share your receent stamping experiences.
Is Canada better.,
Thank you
Bobby.
If your documents are in order then there is really no need to worry. The employer memo you are talking about is about employer - employee relationship. If a worker on H1 visa is working at a client site where his / her employer do not directly control the day to day activity then that person will be denied H1.
In plain terms if you are on staff augmentation project and report to a client manager who controls your day to day assignment and your H1 employer only runs your payroll then there will be issues when you go for stamping with a possibility of your visa getting denied.
How easy or difficult is it.
Is it any different in Chennai or in Hyd.
I heard different things like some employer memo or something. Is it related to stamping.
If it is, please share your receent stamping experiences.
Is Canada better.,
Thank you
Bobby.
If your documents are in order then there is really no need to worry. The employer memo you are talking about is about employer - employee relationship. If a worker on H1 visa is working at a client site where his / her employer do not directly control the day to day activity then that person will be denied H1.
In plain terms if you are on staff augmentation project and report to a client manager who controls your day to day assignment and your H1 employer only runs your payroll then there will be issues when you go for stamping with a possibility of your visa getting denied.
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lostinbeta
10-05 04:08 AM
That sucks about the comp not being able to take it. I know what that is like all too well.
I have been using Photoshop since April 2001. I started with Photoshop 6 and now I have 7. It sometimes lags on me when I create large 1024x768 wallpaper images and such.
I have been using Photoshop since April 2001. I started with Photoshop 6 and now I have 7. It sometimes lags on me when I create large 1024x768 wallpaper images and such.
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sweet23guyin
05-05 01:59 PM
Sent you a private message...
I'm currently on h1b, with PERM approved and I-140 filing in progress.
At what stage of the green card process can I write iPhone Apps for the Apple App Store and accept payments for them?
I know I'm allowed to own a company but not take a salary on h1b. So would it be possible to incorporate a company and then let the money accumulate in company accounts until I get to the stage when I can accept payments? Can the company pay for development resources such as equipment and accessories needed for developing the Apps even if I don't take a salary?
I'm currently on h1b, with PERM approved and I-140 filing in progress.
At what stage of the green card process can I write iPhone Apps for the Apple App Store and accept payments for them?
I know I'm allowed to own a company but not take a salary on h1b. So would it be possible to incorporate a company and then let the money accumulate in company accounts until I get to the stage when I can accept payments? Can the company pay for development resources such as equipment and accessories needed for developing the Apps even if I don't take a salary?
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imm_pro
01-20 02:35 PM
The new look is awsome.
We sure picked the best day to launch this change.
We sure picked the best day to launch this change.
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November 21st, 2005, 06:09 PM
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07-16 02:48 PM
I posted it there as well
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chintu25
09-15 12:38 PM
I am in
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sid_das
04-21 06:36 PM
sorry didnt see the last 2 lines of your post starscream....
i will talk to some lawyers and hopefully get some answers.
my company said the appeal will take atleast 6-7 months nowadays...
i can work till then without issues.
i will talk to some lawyers and hopefully get some answers.
my company said the appeal will take atleast 6-7 months nowadays...
i can work till then without issues.
Escape_Velocity
04-10 12:48 PM
GC Struggle, I am not sure about your comments on "reactivated by filing an amendment with USCIS" to get back to H1B status after being employed with EAD. As per my understanding once you had utlized EAD then if one wants to go back to H1B then it is like a NEW H1B petition and NOT just claiming your old H1B. If possible could you pls provide a link to official document stating the approach suggested in your post.
vkannan
08-14 07:26 PM
i was given a red dot as well.. jus coz i started a thread on Oct Bulletin - discussion! with a gracious addressing .. as A.hole!!! what one earth i did to deserve that..
so anyways...I dont care a **** but this is imperialist
After seeing the Sep bulletin rightly so ppl. who are struck with unfortunate EB3 category are frustrated, your post came at the wrong timing.....just to chill you off I gave you green enjoy....
so anyways...I dont care a **** but this is imperialist
After seeing the Sep bulletin rightly so ppl. who are struck with unfortunate EB3 category are frustrated, your post came at the wrong timing.....just to chill you off I gave you green enjoy....
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